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		<title>Comment on In defense of correlation/causation blowhards by Chris Said</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Said]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree on all points. But in a world tipped too much towards correlational studies (or SEM / DCM studies that, by the way, are very assumption-dependent), the comment blowhards are pushing science in the right direction, even if those commenters are not the best critical thinkers themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on all points. But in a world tipped too much towards correlational studies (or SEM / DCM studies that, by the way, are very assumption-dependent), the comment blowhards are pushing science in the right direction, even if those commenters are not the best critical thinkers themselves.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In defense of correlation/causation blowhards by Ed Yong</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Yong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually agree with Engber on this one. It&#039;s not that the maxim isn&#039;t important, and Engber doesn&#039;t argue that. It&#039;s just that people have latched onto it as a sort of critical thinking talisman that obviates the need for any deeper thought. There are subtleties and logic to establishing causality that get glossed over by a catchphrase. This is what Engber is alluding to, and I see plenty of the behaviour that he&#039;s frustrated by.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually agree with Engber on this one. It&#8217;s not that the maxim isn&#8217;t important, and Engber doesn&#8217;t argue that. It&#8217;s just that people have latched onto it as a sort of critical thinking talisman that obviates the need for any deeper thought. There are subtleties and logic to establishing causality that get glossed over by a catchphrase. This is what Engber is alluding to, and I see plenty of the behaviour that he&#8217;s frustrated by.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In defense of correlation/causation blowhards by joshuabey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joshuabey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And by &quot;just put out a paper&quot; I mean 7 months ago, d&#039;oh!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by &#8220;just put out a paper&#8221; I mean 7 months ago, d&#8217;oh!</p>
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		<title>Comment on In defense of correlation/causation blowhards by joshuabey</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Cabinet Office just put out a great paper about the need for RCTs to inform public policy decisions.  It&#039;s amazing to see the outright resistance to sound logic in the name of self-preservation, but on the flip side it&#039;s encouraging to see there are some very smart people campaigning for and carrying out RCTs around public policy proposals.  http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/resource-library/test-learn-adapt-developing-public-policy-randomised-controlled-trials]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Cabinet Office just put out a great paper about the need for RCTs to inform public policy decisions.  It&#8217;s amazing to see the outright resistance to sound logic in the name of self-preservation, but on the flip side it&#8217;s encouraging to see there are some very smart people campaigning for and carrying out RCTs around public policy proposals.  <a href="http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/resource-library/test-learn-adapt-developing-public-policy-randomised-controlled-trials" rel="nofollow">http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/resource-library/test-learn-adapt-developing-public-policy-randomised-controlled-trials</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on National labs for all the sciences by Chris Said</title>
		<link>http://filedrawer.wordpress.com/2012/05/29/national-labs-for-all-the-sciences/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Said]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed on all points. The nice thing about government is that it has a longer time horizon than private funders, and so it is willing to fund projects that might not pay dividends until decades from now. But yes, we will be better off if the funding balance is tipped more (but not completely) towards the private sector.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on all points. The nice thing about government is that it has a longer time horizon than private funders, and so it is willing to fund projects that might not pay dividends until decades from now. But yes, we will be better off if the funding balance is tipped more (but not completely) towards the private sector.</p>
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		<title>Comment on National labs for all the sciences by Doc Opp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doc Opp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Online education will affect some disciplines more than others.  It&#039;s much harder to do a chemistry lab online than it is to have a large introductory history lesson.  Moreover, at many of the lower tier schools which will be most affected by this change (which I agree is coming), professors aren&#039;t doing much research anyway.  When you teach a 4:4 courseload, research endeavors are a lot harder.  

So much research in biology and chemistry happens in medical schools, where the online push is, at the very least, farther away.  And much physics has to happen at large schools and national labs anyway, because of the tremendous resources it requires.  

I wonder if there&#039;s data on the amount of productivity (is publication the right metric, or maybe impact factor?) from different schools, so that we could get a sense of the size of the impact.  Given that research productivity follows a power law distribution, and the best researchers are largely at the top schools which won&#039;t be as impacted by the shift online, this may not be as large a problem for science as you imply.  Although quite possibly a problem for all sorts of other reasons (universities provide a ton of benefits, aside from research, for the communities in which they&#039;re located that could be lost).

One last thought - you move to government as a solution, but there&#039;s a growing movement for crowdfunding (kickstarter for research) that could be an alternative.  I agree that science is a public good, but I worry about putting it in the hands of politicians more than it already is.  And as Wendy notes above, we should be wary about spending taxpayer dollars if other alternatives exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Online education will affect some disciplines more than others.  It&#8217;s much harder to do a chemistry lab online than it is to have a large introductory history lesson.  Moreover, at many of the lower tier schools which will be most affected by this change (which I agree is coming), professors aren&#8217;t doing much research anyway.  When you teach a 4:4 courseload, research endeavors are a lot harder.  </p>
<p>So much research in biology and chemistry happens in medical schools, where the online push is, at the very least, farther away.  And much physics has to happen at large schools and national labs anyway, because of the tremendous resources it requires.  </p>
<p>I wonder if there&#8217;s data on the amount of productivity (is publication the right metric, or maybe impact factor?) from different schools, so that we could get a sense of the size of the impact.  Given that research productivity follows a power law distribution, and the best researchers are largely at the top schools which won&#8217;t be as impacted by the shift online, this may not be as large a problem for science as you imply.  Although quite possibly a problem for all sorts of other reasons (universities provide a ton of benefits, aside from research, for the communities in which they&#8217;re located that could be lost).</p>
<p>One last thought &#8211; you move to government as a solution, but there&#8217;s a growing movement for crowdfunding (kickstarter for research) that could be an alternative.  I agree that science is a public good, but I worry about putting it in the hands of politicians more than it already is.  And as Wendy notes above, we should be wary about spending taxpayer dollars if other alternatives exist.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Eight Lessons from the Reproducibility Crisis by FAQ &#124; The File Drawer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FAQ &#124; The File Drawer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on FAQ by 8 Lessons from the Reproducibility Crisis &#124; The File Drawer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[8 Lessons from the Reproducibility Crisis &#124; The File Drawer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] If you have comments, they might already be addressed in my FAQ. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on It’s the incentive structure, people! Why science reform must come from the granting agencies. by 8 Lessons from the Reproducibility Crisis &#124; The File Drawer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[8 Lessons from the Reproducibility Crisis &#124; The File Drawer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on National labs for all the sciences by Jadwiga Brighi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jadwiga Brighi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adhere to on Networked blogs]]></description>
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